Today we have a guest post regarding this article from Russell Moore from a John Doe:
This month the Christians everywhere reel over the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex “marriage.” At the same time, one of the issues hurting many is the excessive celebration performed by President Obama even in the aftermath of this perverted approval of sodomy. This raises the question of what we as Christians ought to think about the American Flag, given the fact that many of us are from the United States.
The flag of my home country will now forever be associated with state approval of tax-exempt orgies, and I’m deeply conflicted about that. The flag represents home for me. I love Christ, church, and family more than America, but that’s about it. Even so, that flag makes me wince—even though I’m the descendant of WWII veterans.
Some would say that the American Flag is simply about heritage, not about sodomy. Many pastors fly the American flag on their property even though they believe that the country is hopelessly irredeemable.
Defenders of the flag would point out that the United States flag has not always been like this. At one point it was, after all, considered the most Christian nation on earth. The difference is, though, that the United States has plummeted into a wicked system of Progressivism (though fortunately late in the game). The United States of America is not simply about limited government and individual liberty; the United States of America is constitutionally committed to the continuation, with protections of law, to a great evil. The moral enormity of the sodomy/baby-killing/divorce/secularism/income-tax-is-theft/let’s-bomb-countries-on-the-other-side-of-the-planet question is one still viscerally felt today, especially by those who grew up in families that were broken by such policies.
The gospel speaks to this. The idea of a human being simply approving of another human being’s degeneracy is abhorrent in a Christian view of morality. That should hardly need to be said these days, though it does, given the modern-day perverted enterprises of gay cocaine orgies all over the world. In the Scriptures, humanity is told to engage in life long monogamous relationships. We are told that it is an abomination for man to lie with man (Lev. 20:13). The current system of progressivism is built off of things the Scriptures condemn as wicked: sodomy (Rom 1:26-27), giving women authority (1 Tim. 2:12), the breaking up of families, and on and on.
In order to prop up this system, a system that benefited the Progressivism of urban SWPLs, American religion has to carefully weave a counter-biblical theology that could justify it (the biblically ridiculous “hate the sin, love the sinner” concept, for instance). In so doing, this form of American folk religion is outside of the global and historic teachings of the Christian church. The reactionaries were right—and they were right not because they were on the right side of history but because they were on the right side of God.
Even beyond that, though, the Flag has taken on yet another contextual meaning in the years since. The American Flag is the emblem of Marxist defiance to Western Civilization, of the elitist opposition to White existence, and of the Zionist terrorism of Israel and the Globalists of our all too recent, all too awful history.
White Christians ought to think about what that flag says to our children, especially considering that most of them will be brainwashed in government run schools. The gospel frees us from scrapping for our “heritage” at the expense of others. As those in Christ, this descendant of American veterans has more in common with a Nigerian Christian than I do with some New York atheist who knows how to signal his liberalism.
None of us is free from a sketchy background, and none of our backgrounds is wholly evil. The blood of Jesus has ransomed us all “from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers” (1 Pet. 1:18), whether your forefathers were Communists, Americans, Vikings, or whatever. We can give gratitude for where we’ve come from, without perpetuating symbols or pretend egalitarianism with others.
The Apostle Paul says that we should not prize our freedom to the point of destroying those for whom Christ died. We should instead “pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding” (Rom. 14:19). The American Flag may mean many things, but with those things it represents defiance against common sense and against natural order. The symbol was used to abort the little brothers and sisters of Jesus, to bomb little kids in Vietnam, Germany, Japan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Atlanta, to terrorize Eastern Orthodox preachers of the gospel and their families by threatening to vaporize their churches with nuclear weapons.
That sort of symbolism is out of step with the justice of Jesus Christ. The cross and the American flag cannot co-exist without one vaporizing the other. White Christians, let’s listen to our common sense. Let’s care not just about our own history, but also about our future. In Christ, we were slaves in Egypt—and as part of the Body of Christ we are all slaves too in the United States. Let’s watch our hearts, pray for wisdom, work for justice, love our neighbors. Let’s take down that flag.
The american flag has no stood for anything right, good or decent since 1860.
Well, perhaps it’s the time to change the flag to ‘United Colors of Benetton’? :)
It hardly matters what the flag once stood for, because everything it stands for now is a LOGICAL and NECESSARY outworking of what it stood for before. America’s founding idea was the destruction of one of Tradition’s oldest pillars, monarchy. Once this was gone, of course the others would go as well. They knocked out state Church, soon after the landed Aristrocracy lost their exclusive powers. Eventually the rule of men collapsed with suffrage, and of course the rule of the tribe who actually conquered the land.
Once the ‘regression of the castes’ that Evola spoke of has been set into motion, it is incredibly difficult, essentially impossible, to reverse. The destructive forces that will kill a nation have already been initiated.
It was said that the Constitution would ONLY serve a “moral and religious people”, but the Founders failed to realize that the whole reason they had a moral and religious people in the first place was because of the class structure with the monarch at its head, and a Church that had actual political power.
And now of course, what does the flag stand for? Whenever seen on foreign soil, you can be sure that either a “democracy project” is being set up, or some corrupt NGO is working diligently to destroy the culture in question.
The American flag has a certain aesthetic beauty to it- and always will. Yet, the current state of America does cast a pall of shame on the flag. I say fly the old thirteen starred flag of the late 1700s, until we raise a new banner for a new nation.
I consider it an odd post since the original writer is a complete cuckservative in every sense. A quick preview of his other writings would shine a fast light on this.
Perhaps the Stars & Stripes, as a symbol of Western Christianity, no longer stands for the ideals it once did. Nevertheless, those ideals remain in the hearts and souls of a great many people and the flag can, and will, prevail for them.
As for Western Christianity, I often wonder if it will wither away completely in the Anglosphere and be supplanted by Eastern Orthodox Christianity (given that Russia seems to be the only white, Christian nation holding firm against progressivism).
Knowing more then a little bit about history keeps me from.getting all fired up about monarchy
@Eddie Willers
First, is Russia a majority white nation? If so, then Brazil is as well.
Brazil is not majority white, more majority mixed native/white however blacks are starting to outbreed everyone,. Russia now that the stans are out of it, is majority white. It’s population is dropping however.
“Perhaps the Stars & Stripes, as a symbol of Western Christianity, no longer stands for the ideals it once did.”
The American flag means what it always did, independent States voluntarily joining for mutual defense and prosperity. The Confederate flag means what it always did, independent States voluntarily joining a new union when the old one became destructive of its purposes.
And the Civil War means what it always did, that States are no longer independent but vassals of the Federal Government. Which makes the proposition that the Civil War ended slavery in America impossible.
Takeaway for the Establishment Conservative: ending slavery with conquest and coercion defeats the point of ending slavery.
How can the flag stand for independent states volunteering to join together when the voluntary nature of things was destroyed in 1860? Also the federal government used force to collect taxes before 1860 as well. The betrayal of such ideals started with George Washington.
The war was about taxes not slavery and Lincoln was willing to persevere slavery through the Constitution. Slavery became the cover when the war proved unpopular and it useful propaganda to keep the unschooled all.fired up on fuck yea team america.