Gromar is wondering how to get intelligent women to breed to avoid dysgenics.
My question: why do we need intelligent women to breed?
Most intelligent women have options (exciting careers, schooling, etc) apart from family. Because they have these options they are going to base their breeding habits on the societally-approved feminist script.
Changing the entire script will be almost impossible, as will making significant numbers of women go against the herd.
Wouldn’t it be much easier to convince intelligent men to breed many children with women of average intelligence?
Mating doesn’t have to be assort itself by intelligence. Most men would naturally prefer a pretty face and sweet disposition to intelligence anyways. Convincing them to do what they want to do naturally should be simpler.
As a side effect, if smart men start marrying and breeding with dimwits, while smart women end up aged, lonely, and barren, future smart women may clue in.
>Changing the entire script will be almost impossible, as will making significant numbers of women go against the herd.
It’s not actually that hard. Marriage first, then kids, then a schooling/career once they are grown. It inverts the normal feminist steps, but from the end user perspective it sounds pretty good.
>My question: why do we need intelligent women to breed?
The problem of getting intelligent women to breed with intelligent men may be why the human race is getting dumber. Our brain size has gone from 1,500 cubic centimeters to 1,350 cc since the last 20, 000 years. Ice ages provide excellent times for the human brains to get bigger because the smarter tend to survive. Civilizations are generally started by peoples who have experiences hard selection process that focus brain power(Mongols, Romans, Chinese, ect). As civilization grow and expand intelligence starts dropping which results in dumber population being unable to maintain the civilization and it collapses. Smart women and men not producing children seems to be at the root of it.
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/sep/25-modern-humans-smart-why-brain-shrinking
It’s not actually that hard. Marriage first, then kids, then a schooling/career once they are grown. It inverts the normal feminist steps, but from the end user perspective it sounds pretty good.
I published a post recently laying out that same plan:
How a Woman Can “Have It All”
With just a little planning, a woman can achieve all of the major accomplishments. Of course, it requires her to marry young and to stay married. Meaning she misses out on the one thing feminist seem to think matters over everything else: using her youth to “explore her sexuality” (carousel riding; banging lots and lots of men). So the choice is really what’s more important to her: partying in her youth OR being a wife, having children, and being a mother? Few women can do both (as reality is painfully pointing out to women who try to do both).
Well, remember, men are choosing smart women as mates for a wide variety of reasons, ranging from status (i.e., it’s very gauche in certain professional and economic circles to have a wife who is significantly less educated and accomplished), to money (2x200k=400k, which is a big lifestyle difference from 200k), to having things in common (able to relate intellectually). Of course within that assortative pool, people still pair up based on mutual attraction, that’s true, but when it comes to *wife* picking (not sex mate picking, but wife picking), highly intelligent and educated men are generally picking from the pool of highly intelligent and educated women — it’s very assortative. You’d have to convince the guys to stop doing so, and that’s going to be a very hard sell, I think.
It’s for this reason that highly educated women have the highest marriage rates. They marry late, but they do marry. Guys aren’t overlooking them, rather similarly educated and accomplished men are seeking them out.
The one trend that could impact this is the disparity in college matriculation rates, but that remains to be seen. One possible scenario is that it will really be the soft tail that is impacted there and we will simply continue to see pairings that are not educationally assortative at that tail (i.e., modestly educated nurses or school teachers marrying cops or firemen or tradesmen), while at the high end it will remain lockstep assortative by education and accomplishment.
According to The Manipulated Man, women don’t need much more intelligence than a housepet to do their role functionally.
Man that book is fucking with my head.
I believe the proper quote out of “The Manipulated Man” is “Theoretically it is
possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still
be considered an acceptable member of society.”
Perhaps Esther Vilar makes similar statements elsewhere, but I can’t recall exactly where.
Doesn’t regression to the mean disprove the need for this?
@ Red: The script isn’t hard, but changing the culture so women, especially “smart” women want to breed would be almost impossible.
@ NS: it might be a hard sell, but I think it’s an easier sell than convincing “smart’ women to go out and have large broods.
@ run: That book is on my list. Eventually…
“@ Red: The script isn’t hard, but changing the culture so women, especially “smart” women want to breed would be almost impossible.”
You’d be surprised. I’ve worked with a couple of women who did it that way and they’re very happy with it(Women are still worthless in the workplace). Run a bunch of about how awesome it is to have kids and then a career and most women will jump in. It’s not a total fix, but it would help.
@Novaseeker
I work “around” academia and I tell you for a fact the most degreed of people are not all that smart. The elites are no longer very elite beyond their high verbal IQ and even that is declining. Academia by it’s nature breeds mostly smart talkers. Besides it’s not high IQ people we need to breed more of, it’s smart successful people who can invent, create, and improve life. Most really high IQ people waste their lives in worthless pursuits and others have their careers ruined by wealth like Steve Wozniak.
I have four smart kids by a very smart wife. If I’d married some of the dull, but nice girls I met when I was dating, I’d have average kids and a dull, but nice marriage.
The other good thing was that my wife was just a little bit cocky about her intelligence and intimidated other interested guys. She was quite easy to catch and has been pretty much an ideal wife.